Comments on: Tour Showcases Remains of Herod’s Jerusalem Palace—Possible Site of the Trial of Jesus https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/ Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:48:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Bruce Terry https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-2000049282 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:08:08 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-2000049282 I visited the Kishle in the summer of 2019 to see this. I saw the west retaining wall of the pavement of the palace complex where Jesus may have been tried and the underside of one of the paving stones (yes, just the underside of the stone). It was rather disappointing.

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By: Dennis B. Swaney https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-14868 Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:05:43 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-14868 @Felix is mixing up his Herods. The Herod to which the “Herod’s Palace” refers is King Herod the Great. Since Herod Antipas was only Tetrarch of Galilee and Perea and NOT king of the Roman province of Judea, he would only be in Jerusalem for certain events such a Passover. Thus, the Palace would have been normally used by the Romans. However, it IS possible that being a compound, both Roman Prefect Pilate & Tetrarch Herod could have been in different parts of it, probably as far apart as possible!

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By: Stephen Funck https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-13880 Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:24:16 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-13880 Most of the enormous area included in the dimension from Josephus has not been built upon.
It would be available for excavation except it is the Armenian Cemetery. I would think archeologists drool over the idea of going there.

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By: Stephen Ray Hale https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-10736 Sat, 08 Oct 2016 22:27:47 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-10736 I would believe that the proetorium would be located in Fort Antonia and perhaps lavish Roman tiles like the ones that they discovered on the so called temple mount were part of the lavish furnishings of the building. I believe the whole thing called the temple mount IS Fort Antonia, where Jesus was tried, perhaps, on the very rock that is enshrouded by a mosque. It is already said that such stones are found in many Herodian structures elsewhere, and it did not have to be found in the temple. Only the presupposition that the temple was in the enclosure that is now so contested would make folk think such stones were from the temple. Now I am not sure at this moment (concerning the rock) that the stones were found from excavations over the Solomon Stables and how close that is to the Dome of the Rock to say Jesus was tried while standing on the rock. But I believe the temple mount is that small rise between the Enclosure I am calling Fort Antonia (now the so called temple mount) and the old city of David, and happily so if the Jews can quickly and silently acquiesce that area, maybe even cheaply and build some future temple there to their hearts delight.

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By: Félix Ferrà https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-7893 Sun, 05 Apr 2015 02:07:01 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-7893 Some scholars usually neglect the information on the New Testament itself. One strong biblical reason for Pilatos not staying on Herod’s palace was that he and Antipas – Herod’s son – were enemies until that date (see Lk 23,12). Although Pilatos had a powerful position, Antipas influence and right over the palace could not be so easily underestimate.

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By: Kurt https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-2040 Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:55:44 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-2040 Kenyan lawyer sues ‘Israel’ for killing Jesus
https://paradoxoftheday.com/kenyan-lawyer-sues-israel-for-killing-jesus/

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By: Kurt https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-7160 Sat, 10 Jan 2015 17:10:28 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-7160 ANTONIA, TOWER OF
According to Josephus, the fortress was built on a rocky eminence 50 cubits (c. 22 m; 73 ft) high. Above the rock, it had stone walls 40 cubits (c. 18 m; 58 ft) high and four corner towers, three of them 50 cubits (c. 22 m; 73 ft) high and the other, at the southeast corner overlooking the whole temple area, 70 cubits (c. 31 m; 102 ft) high. (The Jewish War, V, 238-247 [v, 8]) Prior to Herod’s time the fortress served primarily against incursions from the N, but thereafter it mainly served as a point of control over the Jews and a means of policing the activities in the temple area, to which there was direct access from the fortress.
The square layout of the fortress would indicate that it had a central court. Some believe that it was in such a central court within this tower that Jesus appeared before Pilate for judgment. (Joh 19:13) They suggest that a stone pavement found in this area was the one referred to as “Gabbatha.” Others, however, believe that Jesus’ judgment by Pilate took place before Herod’s palace.

GOVERNOR’S PALACE
The Greek term prai·to′ri·on (from Lat., praetorium) designates the official residence of the Roman governors. In the governor’s palace at Jerusalem, Pontius Pilate questioned Christ Jesus, and in its courtyard, Roman soldiers mocked him. (Mr 15:16; Joh 18:28, 33; 19:9) Some have identified the governor’s palace with the Tower of Antonia, but others suggest that it was probably the palace built by Herod the Great. The following reasons have been presented in support of the latter view: (1) According to the first-century Jewish philosopher Philo (The Embassy to Gaius, XXXIX, 306), Herod’s palace was called “the house of the governors,” and it was there that Governor Pilate hung shields in honor of Tiberius Caesar. (2) The Jewish historian Josephus reports that the procurator Gessius Florus took up his quarters there. (The Jewish War, II, 301 [xiv, 8]) (3) Herod’s palace in Caesarea served as the governor’s palace in that city.—Ac 23:33-35.
The palace of Herod at Jerusalem was situated in the NW corner of the upper city, that is, of the southern part of the city. According to Josephus’ description, it was surrounded by a 30-cubit-high (13 m; 44 ft) wall equipped with evenly spaced towers. Within the walls there were porticoes, courts, and groves of trees. The rooms were luxuriously furnished with gold, silver, and marble objects. There were bedchambers for a hundred guests.—Jewish Antiquities, XV, 318 (ix, 3); The Jewish War, V, 173-182 (iv, 4).
In the Gospels and Acts, the Latinism prai·to′ri·on is used with regard to a palace or residence. The tent of an army commander had been known as praetorium, and so, in time, the term was applied to the residence of a provincial governor. Thus Pilate interrogated Jesus in the praetorium, or “governor’s palace.” (Joh 18:28, 33; 19:9) Evidently there, judgments were rendered and troops were barracked. (Mt 27:27; Mr 15:16)

STONE PAVEMENT
A paved place at Jerusalem where Roman Governor Pontius Pilate sat on the judgment seat when Jesus Christ was before him for trial. (Joh 19:13) The site was called, in Hebrew, “Gabbatha,” a word of uncertain derivation and possibly meaning “hill,” “height,” or “open space.” The Greek name for it, Li·tho′stro·ton (Stone Pavement), may indicate a tessellated pavement, one of ornamental mosaic work.
“The Stone Pavement” where Jesus appeared before Pilate was in some way associated with “the governor’s palace.” (Joh 19:1-13) It may have been an open area in front of the palace of Herod the Great; some scholars favor identification with a site near or a central court within the Tower of Antonia, NW of the temple grounds. But the exact site of The Stone Pavement remains unknown.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200274476

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By: Stephen Funck https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/herods-jerusalem-palace-trial-of-jesus/#comment-7152 Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:14:49 +0000 https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/?p=37191#comment-7152 All that is left is a small fraction of the whole palace that Josephus described. Hundreds of thousands had seen it, no one objected to his report. A simplified model is at the Holyland Hotel in Jerusalem.
http://www.bible-history.com/jerusalem/firstcenturyjerusalem_herod_s_palace.html
The Wikipedia article is a good summary including the text from Josephus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_Palace_(Jerusalem)
The footprint of the Palace is a close match to the Armenian Cemetery and has never been excavated. There is so much more to learn.

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